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		<title>By: genevieve</title>
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		<dc:creator>genevieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People often told me that I was making up excuses not to take the pain killers, but when I was on them I gradually became worse too. I noticed it every time I tried them - different types too, so refuse to take them. I am so relieved to find that someone else says the same!!! What a relief - I  was not as mad as people thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People often told me that I was making up excuses not to take the pain killers, but when I was on them I gradually became worse too. I noticed it every time I tried them &#8211; different types too, so refuse to take them. I am so relieved to find that someone else says the same!!! What a relief &#8211; I  was not as mad as people thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://librarianinblack.net/librarianinblack/2011/05/eds.html/comment-page-1#comment-71466</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 02:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always known that I have EDS, ever since I can remember, because my mom knew that she has it, and so when I began to show symptoms of it, she looked for ad doctor that would listen to her about it. Until I read this article, I had no idea about the pain from EDS- I have only felt pain when I&#039;ve been injured, and my mom is currently in her late 40&#039;s and has never had to have pain meds for EDS. Sometimes I do get tired- I did not know that that was part of EDS!- and I have alway attributed it to my mitral valve regurgitation, as my maternal grandfather recently had surgery to correct that, and we think it is my grandmother who has the gene for the EDS. I am fine, as I Irish Dance, I swim, and I&#039;m pretty much a normal person. It bugs me that people say it is an &quot;illness&quot; or a &quot;disease&quot; (I&#039;m kinda ok with disease, but not really), like it will go away on its own. I&#039;m just saying this all on the off chance that someone just diagnosed with EDS reading thru this is getting really worried about how their life is going to be- to say that everything will be fine, and it may even end up being that, with the right lifestyle, they can enjoy a relatively normal life. Sometimes my shoulder hurts, but that is about it. I&#039;m active, as is my mom, as is my grandmother (even though she has never been diagnosed and is 75 years old), and I enjoy life, although I do wish that the scars on my legs (I have the classical type) could be hidden by makeup, but they are too dark, and even scars that I have had since I was three are still paper thin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always known that I have EDS, ever since I can remember, because my mom knew that she has it, and so when I began to show symptoms of it, she looked for ad doctor that would listen to her about it. Until I read this article, I had no idea about the pain from EDS- I have only felt pain when I&#8217;ve been injured, and my mom is currently in her late 40&#8242;s and has never had to have pain meds for EDS. Sometimes I do get tired- I did not know that that was part of EDS!- and I have alway attributed it to my mitral valve regurgitation, as my maternal grandfather recently had surgery to correct that, and we think it is my grandmother who has the gene for the EDS. I am fine, as I Irish Dance, I swim, and I&#8217;m pretty much a normal person. It bugs me that people say it is an &#8220;illness&#8221; or a &#8220;disease&#8221; (I&#8217;m kinda ok with disease, but not really), like it will go away on its own. I&#8217;m just saying this all on the off chance that someone just diagnosed with EDS reading thru this is getting really worried about how their life is going to be- to say that everything will be fine, and it may even end up being that, with the right lifestyle, they can enjoy a relatively normal life. Sometimes my shoulder hurts, but that is about it. I&#8217;m active, as is my mom, as is my grandmother (even though she has never been diagnosed and is 75 years old), and I enjoy life, although I do wish that the scars on my legs (I have the classical type) could be hidden by makeup, but they are too dark, and even scars that I have had since I was three are still paper thin.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi! I just wanted to say how much I appreciate reading about people with EDS. I was diagnosed when I was 18 and I have been extremely lucky because I am not to the point where I have to be on prescribed pain meds yet. Some days it is extremely tempting to, but as long as I am having more good days than bad I will do without. Especially after reading the comments on this blog, it scares me that the meds could be doing more harm than good in the long run. Living with EDS is so frustrating because most of us do not look sick and often my friends accuse me of being lazy when I say how tired I am. It gets so old explaining myself over and over, I know all of us can relate to that! But I just wanted to say thanks again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I just wanted to say how much I appreciate reading about people with EDS. I was diagnosed when I was 18 and I have been extremely lucky because I am not to the point where I have to be on prescribed pain meds yet. Some days it is extremely tempting to, but as long as I am having more good days than bad I will do without. Especially after reading the comments on this blog, it scares me that the meds could be doing more harm than good in the long run. Living with EDS is so frustrating because most of us do not look sick and often my friends accuse me of being lazy when I say how tired I am. It gets so old explaining myself over and over, I know all of us can relate to that! But I just wanted to say thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Abbie, thank you for sharing your story.  I am sorry that EDS has affected your life as much as it has.  I do know how hard it can be.  I wish you nothing but the best.  I can only write from my own experiences and share what&#039;s happened to me.  Going off of the pain medications was not something my doctors recommended--in fact, they told me not to do it.  Off the opioid medication I am in pain every day, but less pain than I was in on the medication.  The side effects of the medication, for me, were worse than the original effects of EDS.  That would not necessarily be the same for everyone, but I do want to give people hope that you can try alternatives...that you can, through force of will and a lot of hard work, make your life different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abbie, thank you for sharing your story.  I am sorry that EDS has affected your life as much as it has.  I do know how hard it can be.  I wish you nothing but the best.  I can only write from my own experiences and share what&#8217;s happened to me.  Going off of the pain medications was not something my doctors recommended&#8211;in fact, they told me not to do it.  Off the opioid medication I am in pain every day, but less pain than I was in on the medication.  The side effects of the medication, for me, were worse than the original effects of EDS.  That would not necessarily be the same for everyone, but I do want to give people hope that you can try alternatives&#8230;that you can, through force of will and a lot of hard work, make your life different.</p>
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		<title>By: Abbie Motility</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abbie Motility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your version of life with EDS, but unfortunately, for a lot of people, they have multiple systems that are affected by this disease.  Your entire body is covered in collagen and EDS effects various forms of specific types of collagen.  For some, they are affected by more than just 30% of their body.  Their lungs are effected, their joints are affected, their voice box is effected, and some even nearly die from gastroparesis - a horribly painful and incurable disease, which can be caused from Ehlers Danlos Syndrome.  

Your version is limited in what the experiences of a lot of people have with EDS.  Most people do not have the luxury of going off of pain medication, since every part of their body is excruciating without the pain medication.  I have had EDS my entire life, and the pain has grown to an unacceptable level.  I did not start pain medication until I was 33 years old.  Needless to say, my pain became entirely manageable and I experienced very little pain after that.  Given that your description makes pain medication appear worse for EDSers I had to say something about an entirely different experience with this syndrome.  

EDS should be taken very seriously and people should be allowed to be comfortable in whatever way works for them.  Even with aggressive physical therapy, tens therapy and acupuncture, there are other parts of my body which have quit functioning as a result of EDS.  I have lost 30 pounds due to Gastroparesis, I have a chronic lung condition that often requires medication and oxygen to help me breathe and also will be forced to have a hysterectomy due to adenomyosis, due to EDS.  It can cause extreme pain in an ordinary person and even greater in a person that has this disease.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your version of life with EDS, but unfortunately, for a lot of people, they have multiple systems that are affected by this disease.  Your entire body is covered in collagen and EDS effects various forms of specific types of collagen.  For some, they are affected by more than just 30% of their body.  Their lungs are effected, their joints are affected, their voice box is effected, and some even nearly die from gastroparesis &#8211; a horribly painful and incurable disease, which can be caused from Ehlers Danlos Syndrome.  </p>
<p>Your version is limited in what the experiences of a lot of people have with EDS.  Most people do not have the luxury of going off of pain medication, since every part of their body is excruciating without the pain medication.  I have had EDS my entire life, and the pain has grown to an unacceptable level.  I did not start pain medication until I was 33 years old.  Needless to say, my pain became entirely manageable and I experienced very little pain after that.  Given that your description makes pain medication appear worse for EDSers I had to say something about an entirely different experience with this syndrome.  </p>
<p>EDS should be taken very seriously and people should be allowed to be comfortable in whatever way works for them.  Even with aggressive physical therapy, tens therapy and acupuncture, there are other parts of my body which have quit functioning as a result of EDS.  I have lost 30 pounds due to Gastroparesis, I have a chronic lung condition that often requires medication and oxygen to help me breathe and also will be forced to have a hysterectomy due to adenomyosis, due to EDS.  It can cause extreme pain in an ordinary person and even greater in a person that has this disease.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey there,

Love the piece. I would say that it&#039;s never good to say &#039;there is little hope for a cure.&#039; I know that&#039;s it&#039;s probably a ways off but there are a few helpful things that are happening right now, not least of which is the Ehlers Danlos Network trying to get enough money together to research a mouse model for Vascular EDS. It&#039;s not a cure, but it&#039;s a start and the more noise and support that happens, the sooner something will happen. 

The below is a link to trials for a disease called Recessive Dystrophic EB. Basically, this is a disease of collagen type VII, where the skin and fat are not properly attach and any friction causes severe blistering. They tested stem cell therapy on a mouse model and have finished Phase 1 Clinical Trials, inserting bone marrow stem cells which have helped the patients regrow enough collagen to reduce the severity of the disease. While this is not exactly the same to what is occuring in EDS, it&#039;s definitely a step in the right direction.

http://www.jgsf.org/research-update.html

Don&#039;t give up hope,
Rob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there,</p>
<p>Love the piece. I would say that it&#8217;s never good to say &#8216;there is little hope for a cure.&#8217; I know that&#8217;s it&#8217;s probably a ways off but there are a few helpful things that are happening right now, not least of which is the Ehlers Danlos Network trying to get enough money together to research a mouse model for Vascular EDS. It&#8217;s not a cure, but it&#8217;s a start and the more noise and support that happens, the sooner something will happen. </p>
<p>The below is a link to trials for a disease called Recessive Dystrophic EB. Basically, this is a disease of collagen type VII, where the skin and fat are not properly attach and any friction causes severe blistering. They tested stem cell therapy on a mouse model and have finished Phase 1 Clinical Trials, inserting bone marrow stem cells which have helped the patients regrow enough collagen to reduce the severity of the disease. While this is not exactly the same to what is occuring in EDS, it&#8217;s definitely a step in the right direction.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jgsf.org/research-update.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jgsf.org/research-update.html</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give up hope,<br />
Rob</p>
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		<dc:creator>Natural cure for cluster headaches &#124; Cluster headache treatment &#124; Cluster Headache Treatment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have used it. So, if you want to try a natural cure for cluster headaches you can try one of these. Cluster headaches, one of the most feared headaches there are. If you never had them, or don’t kno...researched and doctors and pharmacist haven’t found a cure yet. They will prescribe strong pain [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://librarianinblack.net/librarianinblack/2011/05/eds.html/comment-page-1#comment-50156</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will have disagree with you, and can only speak for my personal experiences.  I realize EDS folks have an abnormal response to pain -- the nerve involvement is incontrovertible.  However, my pain got so, so much worse on the painkillers, and once off of them it was a night and day switch -- not a gradual improvement as I would expect to develop through strengthening.  I am 100% confident that the painkillers did create hyperalgesia in me.  That&#039;s not to say there wasn&#039;t any other nerve involvement, but the painkillers hurt me.  I don&#039;t know about other people&#039;s experiences, but that was mine.

And, like you I have the same experience with anaesthesia at the dentist...in fact, I just had that happen a couple of weeks ago.  It took 11 injections and 90 minutes to get me numb.  I&#039;ve also woken up during every surgery I&#039;ve had where I was supposed to be knocked out (including two endoscopies--it&#039;s no fun waking up with a giant tube down your throat), despite pre-warning the doctors that I&#039;d need to be monitored closely and likely given more than the normal dosage.  *sigh*  They don&#039;t listen...  

And just to be clear: I am not against the use of painkillers - I think they can help people.  In my case, sadly, they made things worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will have disagree with you, and can only speak for my personal experiences.  I realize EDS folks have an abnormal response to pain &#8212; the nerve involvement is incontrovertible.  However, my pain got so, so much worse on the painkillers, and once off of them it was a night and day switch &#8212; not a gradual improvement as I would expect to develop through strengthening.  I am 100% confident that the painkillers did create hyperalgesia in me.  That&#8217;s not to say there wasn&#8217;t any other nerve involvement, but the painkillers hurt me.  I don&#8217;t know about other people&#8217;s experiences, but that was mine.</p>
<p>And, like you I have the same experience with anaesthesia at the dentist&#8230;in fact, I just had that happen a couple of weeks ago.  It took 11 injections and 90 minutes to get me numb.  I&#8217;ve also woken up during every surgery I&#8217;ve had where I was supposed to be knocked out (including two endoscopies&#8211;it&#8217;s no fun waking up with a giant tube down your throat), despite pre-warning the doctors that I&#8217;d need to be monitored closely and likely given more than the normal dosage.  *sigh*  They don&#8217;t listen&#8230;  </p>
<p>And just to be clear: I am not against the use of painkillers &#8211; I think they can help people.  In my case, sadly, they made things worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazinoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazinoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 07:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, but I disagree with you. Though hyperalgesia can result from opiod addiction, it is NOT necessarily the case with EDS. Abnormal response to pain is part of EDS itself, not a result of pain killers. This has been documented and is most likely related to the dysautonomia associated with EDS. 

As a 5yr old child I would faint from mild pain, eg: my brother trod on my toe. Again as a teenager I would faint first day of my menstrual cycle due to pain with the added bonus of migraine. As a child the dental anaesthesia would not kick in till I had left the dentist, and this is still the case If the dentist didn&#039;t wait for the numbness to kick in. A colonoscopy was interrupted as I kept waking up from the procedure, and I was not on any opiod painkillers at the time. 

I suggest you got better as a result of strengthening muscle exercises and not because you discontinued opiod painkillers. As well most of the painkillers prescribed are NOT opiod, but can give equivalent pain relief eg: Tramadol, Digesic]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I disagree with you. Though hyperalgesia can result from opiod addiction, it is NOT necessarily the case with EDS. Abnormal response to pain is part of EDS itself, not a result of pain killers. This has been documented and is most likely related to the dysautonomia associated with EDS. </p>
<p>As a 5yr old child I would faint from mild pain, eg: my brother trod on my toe. Again as a teenager I would faint first day of my menstrual cycle due to pain with the added bonus of migraine. As a child the dental anaesthesia would not kick in till I had left the dentist, and this is still the case If the dentist didn&#8217;t wait for the numbness to kick in. A colonoscopy was interrupted as I kept waking up from the procedure, and I was not on any opiod painkillers at the time. </p>
<p>I suggest you got better as a result of strengthening muscle exercises and not because you discontinued opiod painkillers. As well most of the painkillers prescribed are NOT opiod, but can give equivalent pain relief eg: Tramadol, Digesic</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your story is very inspiring to me, considering i have the disease as well. I also have a bleeding disorder along with it. I&#039;ve always been more concerned about the bleeding disorder (VWD) rather than even stressing about EDS...until just recently when I learned just how serious the disease is. I&#039;ve never really been one to worry about living a good life style either, i mean i figured because i have a small build i&#039;m fine to smoke and not watch what i eat, well i realize now just how wrong i am. it&#039;s good to know that there&#039;s so many other people who have EDS though, and there&#039;s so much support for it and awareness now. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your story is very inspiring to me, considering i have the disease as well. I also have a bleeding disorder along with it. I&#8217;ve always been more concerned about the bleeding disorder (VWD) rather than even stressing about EDS&#8230;until just recently when I learned just how serious the disease is. I&#8217;ve never really been one to worry about living a good life style either, i mean i figured because i have a small build i&#8217;m fine to smoke and not watch what i eat, well i realize now just how wrong i am. it&#8217;s good to know that there&#8217;s so many other people who have EDS though, and there&#8217;s so much support for it and awareness now. <img src='http://librarianinblack.net/librarianinblack/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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