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		<title>By: heather in CT</title>
		<link>http://librarianinblack.net/librarianinblack/2011/04/just-say-no-to-freegal.html/comment-page-5#comment-147229</link>
		<dc:creator>heather in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 18:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree with a Public library using public (or even non-public, unless specially designated) funds to purchase material for individuals, that can&#039;t be used by others.  This is not collection development.  

In the current academic setting I am in this product has not been requested.   However, as a local taxpayer and public library user I think this is an unfair use of the public library budget. The public library would not purchase a book for me that couldn&#039;t be read by others, electronic or print. Why should music be any different.   

As individuals we may not use everything the public library has to offer, but every item they purchase should be available to all. 

I can think of so many different ways to say this...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with a Public library using public (or even non-public, unless specially designated) funds to purchase material for individuals, that can&#8217;t be used by others.  This is not collection development.  </p>
<p>In the current academic setting I am in this product has not been requested.   However, as a local taxpayer and public library user I think this is an unfair use of the public library budget. The public library would not purchase a book for me that couldn&#8217;t be read by others, electronic or print. Why should music be any different.   </p>
<p>As individuals we may not use everything the public library has to offer, but every item they purchase should be available to all. </p>
<p>I can think of so many different ways to say this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bay Area Librarian</title>
		<link>http://librarianinblack.net/librarianinblack/2011/04/just-say-no-to-freegal.html/comment-page-5#comment-147218</link>
		<dc:creator>Bay Area Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 17:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Sarah for contributing this post on Freegal. I am a librarian -- I work for a college in the area -- but do not work in a public library, but happened to notice at one time that San Jose Public offered Freegal with its &quot;3 free downloads per week&quot; and I was intrigued and made it a point to follow up with the vendor. Haha I guess I do often fall victim to technolust and thought how cool it would be for students and other faculty to be able to download &quot;free&quot; music from the library. (I do notice that SJPL may have failed to renew their contract with Freegal, since I now see the only eMusic product offered is through OverDrive.) 

 Thank you for your very illuminating blog post! I had no idea what the cost would be for us to subscribe to a service like this, but doubtless the cost would far exceed what we have available in our very slim e-resources budget. I am also wary of any vendor whose web presence consists of a single page. (?) I also fear that opening up lines of communication with a sales rep would make me prey for cold calls and -- even worse -- cold visits that I would need to fend off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Sarah for contributing this post on Freegal. I am a librarian &#8212; I work for a college in the area &#8212; but do not work in a public library, but happened to notice at one time that San Jose Public offered Freegal with its &#8220;3 free downloads per week&#8221; and I was intrigued and made it a point to follow up with the vendor. Haha I guess I do often fall victim to technolust and thought how cool it would be for students and other faculty to be able to download &#8220;free&#8221; music from the library. (I do notice that SJPL may have failed to renew their contract with Freegal, since I now see the only eMusic product offered is through OverDrive.) </p>
<p> Thank you for your very illuminating blog post! I had no idea what the cost would be for us to subscribe to a service like this, but doubtless the cost would far exceed what we have available in our very slim e-resources budget. I am also wary of any vendor whose web presence consists of a single page. (?) I also fear that opening up lines of communication with a sales rep would make me prey for cold calls and &#8212; even worse &#8212; cold visits that I would need to fend off.</p>
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		<title>By: mike rowlands</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike rowlands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2013 00:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a tax payer and i use Freegal and I like it.  It is the responiability of the library system to decide the value , not mine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a tax payer and i use Freegal and I like it.  It is the responiability of the library system to decide the value , not mine</p>
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		<title>By: badgrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>badgrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 04:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[excellent and informative post - just learned that tucson libraries (pima county libraries) uses freegal, and that users are limited to ten downloads a week. perhaps the pricing has changed since the post date in 2011.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent and informative post &#8211; just learned that tucson libraries (pima county libraries) uses freegal, and that users are limited to ten downloads a week. perhaps the pricing has changed since the post date in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: John Merle Holes</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Merle Holes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 19:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Sarah Houghton, I am a new patron of the Seattle Public Library.  I signed up for Freegal the day after I got my library card (Monday, May 15th, 2013), and I&#039;ve used the service for two weeks.  I have no difficulty in finding music that I want to download from the service so far:  I have a huge list of titles that I have been keeping from other streaming services that I&#039;ve listened too, such as radio stations on iTunes and a cable radio station (Music Choice Soundscapes), and there is no way that I could ever afford to purchase all of it.

Since I have no idea if I will hit the limits of the Freegal service for myself, I am enjoying it on my new Android mobile device that had no music content downloaded to it.  My library of downloads will grow over time.  Sometimes, it is not possible to download every song from an artist either, so I find that acceptable as well since it ensures that fans of an artist will still be purchasing digital albums occasionally.  The Seattle Public Library uses other e-sources for music as well, such as Hoopla, and while I can instantly access entire albums through that service (I&#039;ve borrowed around eight this past week), the extent of the hoopla library is far more limited.  I have browsed through nearly the entire New Age genre in the past week and have found only two albums that I would consider Favorites and only a handful of others that I would even want to listen to again.

Working in the game industry, I have been a strong anti-pirate advocate for many years now, but one thing that I have always found disconcerting about free music services is that, when they have too much content available, what is to keep the consumer from just continuing to discover new content rather than settling on favorite artists?  I had downloaded hundreds of hours of MP3s in the ambient genre from MP3.com&#039;s initial heyday, and I had only made it to the letter &quot;C&quot; in all of the artists that fell into that category before the service was taken offline and revamped with a lot less free content.  Buying content can be limited by garden sites too, such as my purchases from iTunes:  iTunes definitely does not have all of the available content for some artists.  Then I&#039;m limited to sources like Amazon to track down actual physical copies for purchase when libraries fail me.

So my initial impression of Freegal is that it&#039;s part of a spectrum of e-services that anyone with a participating library can avail themselves of.  That Freegal has the Sony record label content is its saving grace.  There are pay services that would not interest me as much as Freegal if it were a pay service for customers because of this.  In the early days of eMusic, for example, most of its music was from independent artists and labels and not really in genres in which I am interested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sarah Houghton, I am a new patron of the Seattle Public Library.  I signed up for Freegal the day after I got my library card (Monday, May 15th, 2013), and I&#8217;ve used the service for two weeks.  I have no difficulty in finding music that I want to download from the service so far:  I have a huge list of titles that I have been keeping from other streaming services that I&#8217;ve listened too, such as radio stations on iTunes and a cable radio station (Music Choice Soundscapes), and there is no way that I could ever afford to purchase all of it.</p>
<p>Since I have no idea if I will hit the limits of the Freegal service for myself, I am enjoying it on my new Android mobile device that had no music content downloaded to it.  My library of downloads will grow over time.  Sometimes, it is not possible to download every song from an artist either, so I find that acceptable as well since it ensures that fans of an artist will still be purchasing digital albums occasionally.  The Seattle Public Library uses other e-sources for music as well, such as Hoopla, and while I can instantly access entire albums through that service (I&#8217;ve borrowed around eight this past week), the extent of the hoopla library is far more limited.  I have browsed through nearly the entire New Age genre in the past week and have found only two albums that I would consider Favorites and only a handful of others that I would even want to listen to again.</p>
<p>Working in the game industry, I have been a strong anti-pirate advocate for many years now, but one thing that I have always found disconcerting about free music services is that, when they have too much content available, what is to keep the consumer from just continuing to discover new content rather than settling on favorite artists?  I had downloaded hundreds of hours of MP3s in the ambient genre from MP3.com&#8217;s initial heyday, and I had only made it to the letter &#8220;C&#8221; in all of the artists that fell into that category before the service was taken offline and revamped with a lot less free content.  Buying content can be limited by garden sites too, such as my purchases from iTunes:  iTunes definitely does not have all of the available content for some artists.  Then I&#8217;m limited to sources like Amazon to track down actual physical copies for purchase when libraries fail me.</p>
<p>So my initial impression of Freegal is that it&#8217;s part of a spectrum of e-services that anyone with a participating library can avail themselves of.  That Freegal has the Sony record label content is its saving grace.  There are pay services that would not interest me as much as Freegal if it were a pay service for customers because of this.  In the early days of eMusic, for example, most of its music was from independent artists and labels and not really in genres in which I am interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 09:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, in the 2 years since you originally posted this, Freegal hasn&#039;t improved their search function. (Well, I hope it hasn&#039;t been improved because it&#039;s pretty bad right now.) I&#039;m a library patron, not a librarian. I was excited when I first found out our library system had free music downloads, but I have to say, I&#039;ve hardly used it. Too hard to remember to come back each week. Too hard to find what I&#039;m looking for even if it&#039;s there. And it usually isn&#039;t there. Oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in the 2 years since you originally posted this, Freegal hasn&#8217;t improved their search function. (Well, I hope it hasn&#8217;t been improved because it&#8217;s pretty bad right now.) I&#8217;m a library patron, not a librarian. I was excited when I first found out our library system had free music downloads, but I have to say, I&#8217;ve hardly used it. Too hard to remember to come back each week. Too hard to find what I&#8217;m looking for even if it&#8217;s there. And it usually isn&#8217;t there. Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: John Parks</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 21:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[other than their site being slow and not offering advanced search options, I am thankful my local library offers this service]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>other than their site being slow and not offering advanced search options, I am thankful my local library offers this service</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 18:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The company&#039;s name is Library Ideas. Here&#039;s their website: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.libraryideas.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.libraryideas.com/&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company&#8217;s name is Library Ideas. Here&#8217;s their website: <a href="http://www.libraryideas.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.libraryideas.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 15:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hello, i was just wanting to know why there is no contact information to contact freegal music llc. there is a very limited selection of music on this website.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello, i was just wanting to know why there is no contact information to contact freegal music llc. there is a very limited selection of music on this website.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Darwin</title>
		<link>http://librarianinblack.net/librarianinblack/2011/04/just-say-no-to-freegal.html/comment-page-4#comment-136087</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Darwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 01:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DS, Also, Sarah (Houghton, the keeper of this blog who wrote the above) does state very concretely why the service might be unsustainable. Here, I&#039;ll copy/paste the relevant paragraphs explaining why it is unsustainable. I have put two asterisks at the beginning of the paragraph that explains the concrete reasons why/how Freegal is unsustainable:

&quot;Why are we buying pay-per-use MP3s?
I believe that without really thinking it through, libraries who have subscribed to Freegal have created a fundamental change in their library’s collection policy and expenditures.

**Libraries typically buy one copy of something, and then lend it out to multiple users sequentially, in order to get a good return on investment. Participating in a product like Freegal means that we’re not lending anymore, we’re buying content for users to own permanently so they don’t have to pay the vendor directly themselves. This puts us in direct competition with the vendor’s sales directly to consumers, and the vendors will never make more money off of libraries than they will off of direct consumer sales.

What that does is put libraries in a position of being economic victims of our own success. I would think that libraries would remember this lesson from our difficulties with the FirstSearch pay-per-use model that most of us found to be unsustainable.

The more popular our service gets, the less able we are to meet demand. The private industry is moving away from pay-per-use. Netflix, Rdio, etc. are offering all-you-can-eat models instead on a subscription model. Freegal puts us in danger of manufacturing a demand we can no longer meet. The pay-per-use model undermines the economic power of libraries, which is to aggregate our communities’ buying power and take advantage of the economies of scale. I believe strongly that buying a product like Freegal could be damaging to libraries’ long-term economic sustainability.&quot;

Ps. Sorry about the typos in my most previous post to this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DS, Also, Sarah (Houghton, the keeper of this blog who wrote the above) does state very concretely why the service might be unsustainable. Here, I&#8217;ll copy/paste the relevant paragraphs explaining why it is unsustainable. I have put two asterisks at the beginning of the paragraph that explains the concrete reasons why/how Freegal is unsustainable:</p>
<p>&#8220;Why are we buying pay-per-use MP3s?<br />
I believe that without really thinking it through, libraries who have subscribed to Freegal have created a fundamental change in their library’s collection policy and expenditures.</p>
<p>**Libraries typically buy one copy of something, and then lend it out to multiple users sequentially, in order to get a good return on investment. Participating in a product like Freegal means that we’re not lending anymore, we’re buying content for users to own permanently so they don’t have to pay the vendor directly themselves. This puts us in direct competition with the vendor’s sales directly to consumers, and the vendors will never make more money off of libraries than they will off of direct consumer sales.</p>
<p>What that does is put libraries in a position of being economic victims of our own success. I would think that libraries would remember this lesson from our difficulties with the FirstSearch pay-per-use model that most of us found to be unsustainable.</p>
<p>The more popular our service gets, the less able we are to meet demand. The private industry is moving away from pay-per-use. Netflix, Rdio, etc. are offering all-you-can-eat models instead on a subscription model. Freegal puts us in danger of manufacturing a demand we can no longer meet. The pay-per-use model undermines the economic power of libraries, which is to aggregate our communities’ buying power and take advantage of the economies of scale. I believe strongly that buying a product like Freegal could be damaging to libraries’ long-term economic sustainability.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ps. Sorry about the typos in my most previous post to this one.</p>
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